Coming to an Orwellian nightmare near you...

Location tracking, microphone listening, gyroscope movement tracking, keyword tracking, keyboard tracking, search tracking, camera tracking, network tracking, photo and video access, contacts lists, data aggregation, ambient light sensor, proximity sensor, barometer, location history, telephone and sms access etc

PRIVACY PHONE FREE INSTALL: https://grapheneos.org/install/

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@DazRunner @GrapheneOS

My problem with #GrapheneOS and switching to it:

There are no #links or #forums for #fans to say what they tested already and what works with LESS-supported devices! (the website could link to fan-tested crowd-tested models that works with #GrapheneOS!

What do you think?

#privacy #alternative for #android #OS

https://grapheneos.org/install/

(Pixel phones are mostly listed as "supported" but I'm sure I've seen other phones and people with "it works". Add this #suggestion ?

@collective_truth @DazRunner @GrapheneOS if your phone is not officially supported, better try other custom ROM. I don't see good community support for unofficial GrapheneOS. Android is not linux. The cross compatibility of devices is very limited.

@Kurt @collective_truth @DazRunner GrapheneOS is the only privacy and security hardened Android-based OS. There isn't anything comparable for other devices. The initial post talks about sensor-based tracking where GrapheneOS having a per-app Sensors toggle is very relevant. Other alternate operating systems won't have privacy and security features offered by GrapheneOS. Storage Scopes, Contact Scopes, hardened memory allocator, hardware memory tagging and much more. It's not just an alternative.

@collective_truth @DazRunner

> but I'm sure I've seen other phones and people with "it works".

There are people who wrongly believe they're using GrapheneOS because someone told them a very incomplete port to another device without the core features and updates it provides is GrapheneOS. There was recently a project launched attempting to partially port it to other devices where a bunch of the core features are lost and no updates are provided for the kernel, drivers, firmware, HALs, etc.

@collective_truth @DazRunner There's no such thing as GrapheneOS for devices which aren't officially supported by it. If you see anything claiming to offer it, that's not legitimate and is misleading users. We're beginning to use our recently obtained registered trademarks to address this problem. It was previously quite hard for us to force people to stop misleading users since we didn't have a strong enough deterrent.

If you want GrapheneOS then you need a device providing what it requires.

@collective_truth @DazRunner The main official requirements for GrapheneOS are listed at https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices. We have an official long-term OEM partnership with Motorola where we're working with them on several of their next generation devices meeting all of our requirements and providing official GrapheneOS support. They're working on making a full port of GrapheneOS to their devices along with providing all the hardware-based security features and updates it needs. It's not easy to do.

@GrapheneOS @collective_truth @DazRunner
Oops, talked about other custom ROM.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou_shalt_have_no_other_gods_before_me?wprov=sfla1

@Kurt @collective_truth @DazRunner GrapheneOS isn't in the same space as other alternate mobile operating systems. Those aren't privacy or security hardened and don't serve the same purpose. If someone says they want GrapheneOS, you're not doing them a service by telling them to use an OS which doesn't provide standard Android privacy/security patches and protections let alone greatly improving them. Operating systems failing to provide patches while misleading users about it is a serious issue.

@Kurt @collective_truth @DazRunner GrapheneOS is a hardened OS providing a high level of privacy and security which requires close integrating with hardware and hardware-based security features. Broad device support would go against the entire purpose of GrapheneOS. Each device needs to meet the requirements and needs to have a lot of work put into porting the features to it and hardening the unique aspects of the device against attacks. It's inherently not going to be an OS for many devices.

@Kurt @collective_truth @DazRunner Contrary to what you said above, Android-based operating systems are Linux distributions. An OS being a Linux distribution doesn't in any way imply that it supports running on a huge range of hardware. Linux doesn't mean using glibc, systemd and GNOME. It also doesn't mean providing a Debian style distribution assembled out of a bunch of separately developed packages and system admin configuration with many modules, etc. to partially support a lot of devices.

@GrapheneOS @collective_truth @DazRunner I'd really love to start using GrapheneOS, but the display on Google Pixel is so awful and eye-destroying that unfortunately I'm forced to wait for Motorola phones.

Don't you have information on whether they'll have the same PWM-flickering screens as Pixels, or whether there will be budget Motorola smartphones with GrapheneOS support?

@blit @GrapheneOS @collective_truth it displays crystal clear on my Pixel

@DazRunner @GrapheneOS @collective_truth I wasn’t talking about clearness.